Another “Perfect Phone Call” Recorded in Detroit

This one includes Ronna McDaniel

As reported by Craig Mauger of the Detroit News:

Donald Trump personally pressured two Republican members of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers not to sign the certification of the 2020 presidential election, according to recordings reviewed by The Detroit News and revealed publicly for the first time.

The News listened to audio that was captured in four recordings by someone present for the conversation between Trump and the canvassers. That information came to The News through an intermediary who also heard the recordings but who was not present when they were made. Sources presented the information to The News on the condition that they not be identified publicly for fear of retribution by the former president or his supporters.

On Nov. 17, 2020, Trump told Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, the two Republican Wayne County canvassers, along with RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniels, they’d look “terrible” if they signed the documents after they first voted in opposition and then later in the same meeting voted to approve certification of the county’s election results.

(***News Views covered the chaos that day in Wayne County.)

McDaniel, a Michigan native and the leader of the Republican Party nationally, said at another point in the call, “If you can go home tonight, do not sign it. … We will get you attorneys.”

To which Trump added: “We’ll take care of that.”

Palmer acknowledged to The News that she and Hartmann took the call from Trump in a vehicle and that other people entered the vehicle and could have heard the conversation. She said she could not, however, identify who entered the vehicle or might have heard the conversation.

Jonathan Kinloch, a Democratic canvasser for Wayne County, called what happened on the call “insane.”

“It’s just shocking that the president of the United States was at the most minute level trying to stop the election process from happening,” Kinloch said.

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